[praptak]

I think we agree - my point was not that there is no room in the middle but that if you want to go there you need to give some zero-programming benefits for starters.

And yes, forms are an example of what this benefit might be.

[6ren]

Yes, I think your zero-programming point was spot on (though check that spreadsheet link: I was surprised to learn that visicalc automated existing paper spreadsheets, so "programming" wasn't even an issue, at least for its initial massive success).

But note that we're not really in "support of GP's argument" anymore. ;-) That's what I was arguing against (but excellently provocative questions BTW).