[sandGorgon]

why is this ? i have worked on kotlin in the android ecosystem. But something like kotlin with spring is no better than java right ?

you still have to deal with all the controllers, etc.

on reddit, one of the arguments was interesting - the biggest value of kotlin in backend is using var/val instead of types and making everything public (instead of getters/setters).

would that be correct ? Lombok doesnt fix this ?

[LennyWhiteJr]

There is sooooo much more that Kotlin offers over Lombok it's not even close.

[anko]

Care to elaborate? I myself feel this way, but when i break it down I can't give good examples.

[kaba0]

You can just use var/final var in java as well.