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by adam_arthur 1371 days ago
Yes, there was a time that C was used for pretty much every app. That time has come and gone as higher level languages became more popular.

So too will Java's. The language itself is objectively more verbose than many modern equivalents. Network effects and existing libraries aren't facets of the language and over time the gap will narrow
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kaba0 1371 days ago
That assumes that that minuscule time being spent on writing 3 more characters+ is actually a productivity hit (it is not).

+ I am actually not sure whether even that is true. With how great intellij is, I would honestly wouldn’t be surprised if writing a java program would come out as less keystrokes than the equivalent program in a less verbose language.

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PuppyTailWags 1371 days ago
Can you please educate me on what are the languages and frameworks that enterprise-level finance and banking are going into in replace of Java? I'm good-faith asking.

Additionally, "the gap will narrow" is not the same as "Java's time is over", which is the only thing I'm having an issue with. Over implies that the gap is already closed, but I don't think it is, and if I'm wrong I sincerely want to know about what the new language du jour of a major employment field is.

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Gibbon1 1371 days ago
If those guys are going to replace Java with anything it ain't going to be go or rust it'll be C#
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kaba0 1370 days ago
C never had the insane hype that Java once did - at the height of its popularity it had an insane amount of mindshare, and probably no language will achieve such ever again. It was literally the only PL that was/is known by laymen.

If anything, the field will fragment a bit more, but java likely never gonna die — cobol and fortran often run in VMs due to the hardware not being as long-lived as them, due to the JVM model, java is not even weak to that.

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ivanche 1370 days ago
Don't forget that new release of Java is coming out every 6 months and that (almost) every one of them brings some core language improvement aimed at reducing verbosity. New long-term release is out every 2 years. How many C releases were there in the last 10 years?
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