[brettwelch]

Thanks!

- I'm no lawyer, but the advice we've received is that we're good on the legal side.

- You're on the money re: audio. It's miles better than it was 1 month ago, but we're still not 100% yet.

- There is a human curation step (~5% of the process), but that is mostly for removing really crappy videos. Searching/Synching/Sequencing is automatic.

- I dunno about next step(!), but i agree the idea is super interesting :)

[seats]

I wonder how possible it would be both technically and legally to use the audio from the various angles as inputs into an audio processing step where you distill just the true music audio and clean it up. Ideally you'd have one 'cleaned' version of the audio playing and switching views just switches video.

This may be more legally grey than just piping through audio since you are actually producing a derivative work (even if it is mechanically produced), but the net effect would be awesome. You'd end up with better audio than any one person could record, and the more angles you get the higher quality you can make the audio.

Definitely a great idea and very well done for the first cut. You just need some Wilco on there.

[javanix]

It would probably be technically "possible" but I doubt that you'd end up with anything that sounds listenable.

The only bootleg audio that usually sounds decent are soundboard recordings, and when you find audience tapes spliced in with them the difference is immediately noticable.

[kokey]

I think theoretically you can make it quite good, but it's not going to be a simple task and you probably can't rely on purely the fans' recording. I think the best way would be to modulate them together based on a weighting depending on position or distance away from where the music is coming from, also discarding distorted recordings etc. That said, you probably only want this lightly mixed in along with a good recording from the desk, all adjusted for the viewing angle.

[gridspy]

Perhaps bands who want to be popular on this site could provide concert recordings to splice in.

[jurre]

Maybe this is something that has been mentioned before, but I would love it if I could select a fixed audio from one of the videos. For most videos theres one audio track thats clearly the best and it would be great if I could listen to that one the whole time while switching camera views. PS: Very cool stuff!

[transmit101]

> There is a human curation step (~5% of the process), but that is mostly for removing really crappy videos.

Actually, I'd be tempted to make the process 100% automated, and open it up to the general public as soon as possible.

This has the potential to go extremely viral, and occasional "bad" videos could work in favour of this, by introducing an element of humour into the proceedings.

[nextparadigms]

You may be on the legal side, but I'd argue so were Amazon and Google when it came to letting the users stream their own music from their own "cloud" accounts. That didn't seem to stop the music labels from "demanding" getting paid again for the streaming, too. So you should watch your back and don't give in to them, especially if you know you're on the legal side.

[pbhjpbhj]

This certainly looks like a tortuous infringement in the UK (and I'd posit Europe). I didn't get a "only in the US" notice on YouTube though.

I can't see how this is possibly "fair use" - it's the complete work of music and the visual design of the set, choreography and show that is being reproduced in full in a commercial way. Unless the uploaders bought a license with their ticket to reproduce and distribute online and allow derivative works of those reproductions ...

Would be fascinated to read the letter from your IP lawyer justifying this?

[shinratdr]

It's an embed. Supposed rights holders can easily contact Youtube with a DMCA request and they will take it down.

What is the problem exactly?

[pbhjpbhj]

>Supposed rights holders can easily contact Youtube with a DMCA request and they will take it down. //

This is largely irrelevant to the question of infringement and puts the onus on the owner to spot those infringing. Just because there's a ready way in which you can complain doesn't mean that the unlawful activity is somehow made lawful.

Note I'm making no comment here wrt the soundness or morality of said law.

[angusgr]

Thanks for taking the time to reply Brett. It's a really cool technology, can't wait to see where it goes.

[jdunck]

How do I invest? :)

[brettwelch]

... with as much money as you can ;)

[jdunck]

Sadly untrue given SEC oversight on "qualified investors".