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by alexvoda 1364 days ago
> Very few who bothered to do their own independent research and figure out that the translations are wrong reconvert back.

To whom are Dharmic religions bleeding followers? Other religions or ireligion? Is conversion happening between the Dharmic religions? Any idea about percentages related to conversions?

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> To whom are Dharmic religions bleeding followers? Other religions or ireligion? Is conversion happening between the Dharmic religions? Any idea about percentages related to conversions?

Mostly to Abrahamic religions. For Christianity at least you can check the Joshua Project where they have complete statistics of souls harvested: https://joshuaproject.net/countries/IN

You can sort by "Progress Scale" to see the rate of conversions.

> Is conversion happening between the Dharmic religions?

Yes this also happens regularly where Hindus convert to Buddhism and vice-versa. No statistics for this unfortunately.

> ireligion

I don't know the statistics about how many are atheists/agnostic. However, they don't face any discrimination for their viewpoints and many identify themselves as Hindu too (as the word Hindu is not just used as a Religious construct but also to signify culture you belong to). Many even take part in Religious festivities (however odd it might sound to you) as for them it is more a celebration/festival/communal gathering than accepting existence of a Creator/Deity. That flexibility has always been there since Ancient times.

> For Christianity at least you can check the Joshua Project where they have complete statistics of souls HARVESTED: https://joshuaproject.net/countries/IN

> You can sort by "Progress Scale" to see the rate of conversions.

That is just insidious. It is Sith or Borg like behavior.

Yep. They even have "Harvest Information Standards": https://hisregistries.org/

Documentation on how to collect demographic data: https://hisregistries.org/wp-content/uploads/filebase/rop/RO...

Even an FAQ: https://hisregistries.org/wp-content/uploads/filebase/rop/RO...

And a standards process: https://hisregistries.org/wp-content/uploads/filebase/standa...

The entire mechanism is slick, polished and well co-ordinated. Everyone is involved in the process: politicians, police, pastors, NGOs and it probably goes all the way to the Vatican (this is probably a conspiracy theory but can't be ruled out). Most of the donations come from foreign contributions. The modus operandi is typically to create flyers that talk about famine/hunger/floods/earthquakes/AIDS or some infectious disease ravaging third-world countries (think Africa, Asian countries) and solicit donations from gullible citizens of First World countries who naturally do not suspect it to be used for anything nefarious. These donations rake in millions of dollars.

Then these donations are routed through NGOs in India (which thankfully the Government of India cracked down on in 2015-16). They are then routed through various pastors/missionaries who "Preach the Gospel" (code for bribe the economically downtrodden). The more "souls harvested" the higher the share of donation that these pastors/missionaries get. So it is high incentive, high stakes game for them. Every soul they harvest they get anywhere from $3000-$8000. The biggest slice of the pie is for those who can convert upper-caste Brahmins. However, they mostly target villages/tribal areas. The last information (dollar amounts) I cannot substantiate with proof (as most of it happens under the table) but I have seen it with my own eyes (worked with someone who I witnessed engaging in this — he had forgotten that I was in the same room). So take the last piece of information as purely anecdotal as I do not know how wide spread this is and if the rates are the same all across India.

If the conversions were happening because of philosophical/ideological acceptance it wouldn't be an issue at all. This is different. This can be classified as a form of corruption.

If you are interested, you can check "Confessions of an Ex-Christian: Esther Dhanraj" which details the modus operandi of this conversion racket.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNdgGttyvyA