[Garvi]

Fully intentional. As well as not mentioning the name of the prominent Hollywood director. If you're too afraid to google it, the 1984 comments in this thread bashing Russia will create their own gravity well from the irony displayed. Am a EU citizen, a communicologist and programmer.

[The_Stone]

If it's censored so effectively, how do you expect people to find it via googling based on vague allusions? If you believe this is so important, why be so vague in the first place? This is not how speaking in good faith looks.

[philipkglass]

I think that I recognize the parent's allusion. The film is Ukraine on Fire, directed by Igor Lopatonok.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_on_Fire

The executive producer (better known for his work as a director) was Oliver Stone. You can buy it on DVD from several major retailers or pay to get it instantly via streaming on Amazon Prime.

The reason "few US citizen seem to know about it" is probably because most US citizens don't watch political documentaries.

[The_Stone]

Thank you. I'd agree with that presumption. It should also be clear that events in Ukraine have definitely evolved since 2016. Reception seems to imply that multiple sources dismissed the film as Russian propaganda at the time as well. Of course I can't say that for myself without watching it, but I'm noting it as significant.

[Garvi]

How else am I to demonstrate that the information has been removed clean from the internet? If that makes me a bad actor in your opinion, in my opinion you have your reasoning screwed up somewhere, because I'm not following that logic at all. Please refrain from such redditish personal attacks. If you want to aggravate me, disprove my points. Unfortunately I'd more likely thank you than being mad in that case. If you're actually into making people mad, you should stick to reddit.

I don't think there's a single person on this forum that's not an ace at googling. So I take it you didn't google it for other reasons. Which is also a point I'm making and has been additionally explained in the post you're replying to.

[The_Stone]

I did attempt to search it based on the information you provided, but unfortunately couldn't find anything particularly relevant when I can't search in reference to the A-list Hollywood director you're alluding to and with any searches about Ukraine optimizing to being about the war with Russia which is obviously at the forefront of results.

You are being needlessly obtuse in your responses and in providing any clarifying information, which is either acting in bad faith or arrogance. If you believe me calling that out as such is a personal attack, then I suggest you provide sources so your points actually can be accessed and addressed.

[Garvi]

There you go: https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-removes-ukraine-on-fire-do...

I already explained my motivations behind what you describe as "acting in bad faith or arrogance" and would rather not be going in circles.

[The_Stone]

Thank you for providing a source. Although, the claims of censorship here appear hollow per checking currently -

- It's available on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcmNGvaDUs and was posted in April 2021

- It's searchable on Amazon currently despite being blocked in March of this year per the archived result in the article: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Ukraine+on+Fire&rh=n%3A2625373011...

This feels out of date; the movie is not being censored now. It was blocked by private companies likely as a quick response to the beginning of the war, and has since been made accessible again.

[Garvi]

the claims of censorship here appear hollow

Please do realize you didn't check any of my points. Found any footage of Merkel in Kyiv that millions remember from weeks of news coverage, but apparently never happened? What percentage of the global economy is the weapons industry? I could continue with more concrete examples of censorship, but we can't even tackle any basics as they are getting ignored.