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AMerIcA bAd, ANti-amEricA goOD !1!1!!

Non-existent moderation and both side-ism is killing HN. Now the median post is barely better than reddit, but with lots of DK and idiotic contrarian garbage up top. @dang what's it gonna take for you to do start deleting this crap? A nuke?

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That's not a rebuttal dummy.

Do you want the legitimacy debate confers your position? Then debate.

None of my points are any one else's talking points. That's a sign of a non-dogmatic thinker, dummy.

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You ignore that entities other than 'the West' (one homogenous blob apparently) and Russia have agency. NATO doesn't expand, countries voluntarily join because they don't want Russia to fuck them over (again). Your points have been made by Mearsheimer and his ilk many times before. You people keep asserting that Russia is a superpower without backing it up with anything. Your worldview is stuck in the Cold War, you are unable to absorb new information. As was made clear by recent events, having nukes is not sufficient to be a superpower. Hell, fucking Pakistan has nukes. Iran, too, what a superpower, right? Maybe we should ask all of them for permission before we use the shitter, eh?

It's not like the mainstream US narrative is correct either, but you are so wrong it's not even funny. One of the bigger reasons we are in this mess is that 'the West' was too timid, not because it was too aggressive. If you give Russia an inch, they are (and always were) going to take a mile, because they see willingness to compromise as weakness. Weakness provokes, strength deters. But what the fuck do I know, I only live in a post-communist country. I'm sure some tankie or a champagne socialist will be along shortly to explain that if only we would all be nice to each other we would live in some post scarcity Star Trek paradise already and why the military budget should be used to house the poor instead...