[megous]

The only country destroying Ukraine here is Russia. All these mental gymnastics to say otherwise are just so weird. Russia attacked, Russia continues the fight (they can stop the war at any time, and I would be really surprised if there was any attack on Russia land by NATO in that case, lol)

And that you're talking about delusions of Ukrainian president and not a bleep about the delusions of Russia's wannabe czar, is also interesting... :D (take a huge millitarized country that he scared into preparing for a war for last 8 years since 2014, in 3 days, lol)

You also have to give to Zelensky that his begging is massively successful. He got 10's of choppers, massive ammounts of ammunition, hundreds of tanks, high hundreds of armored infantry transport vehicles, anti air defense systems, radars, advanced anti-radar and anit-ship missiles, tens of advanced MLRSs, and god knows what else. Even if you disagree with arming Ukraine, it's hard to call the behavbior that works delusional.

I'm pretty glad that Russia bleeds on its imperialistic adventures. It occupied my country for decades with hundreds of thousands of troops, and I want Russia to weaken as much as possible, so that risk of that happening again is as low as possible. I'll be all for trade again, when they get rid of their imperialistic mindset at the top.

[m000]

> You also have to give to Zelensky that his begging is massively successful.

Genuine question: Is the military support received by Ukraine really pro bono? Or will Ukrainian people be handled the bill after this mess ends?

I understand that the support is a mixture of Soviet-era junk and modern equipment. So, I'd guess, there may be more than one answers.

[megous]

As I understand it it's a huge mixture of many things. From military aid, to financial aid for various pre-defined purposes, both lending and pro bono. Ukraine is also buying equipment in normal ways (likely from borrowed money, or from miltary financial aid).

Some countries seem happy to send equipment hoping that the fight will stay as close to Russia's borders as possible. My country was one of the first to send heavy equipment like tanks to Ukraine, and from all I've read it seems to be for free. Regular people are donating money to Ukr foreign ministry that Ukraine uses to buy military equipment.

If you look at history, US had lend-lease with USSR and Soviets/Russia paid up only part of it over 65 years or so, and a lot of it was written off. So it may take long time to recover the cost, or it may be impossible if Ukraine loses.

There is large overview here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukrai...

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine/