[grnmamba]

A direct war between NATO and Russia will go nuclear and cause tens of millions of casualties in the best case

If you want to go and fight, do it yourself

[koonsolo]

Why? India is fighting China over a border conflict, no nukes used. Why would you think NATO securing Ukraine would end in a nuclear war? It's not as if either NATO or Russia is attacking on the others soil. Ukraine is neither NATO nor Russia, so there is no reason to claim it would be a direct conflict.

[fellellor]

Fighting is a stretch. It’s fisticuffs. Sometimes involves the use of melee weapons. There are agreements in place banning the use of firearms.