[solotronics]

My subjective opinion is that if you hire experts, not just programmers but experts at aviation programming, then possibly someone would have noticed a gap in the logic of the requirements and systems engineering. Who knows for sure? But I know plenty of contractors who write good code but oftentimes it's the architect level expert that knows what's beyond the code.

Especially when the code is directly responsible for a physical system.

[landemva]

MCAS was implemented to cover up the flight characteristic changes which happened when big fans were mounted further forward and higher (else they would scrape on runway). MCAS attempted to make it appear to the pilot that the plane performed like other 737s.

In my opinion the 737MAX needs a distinct type certification. This would dramatically raise costs, so it is covered up with software. FAA and regulators in other countries don't care. This management and regulator problem is enabled by all off the passengers who pay for seats on this plane.

[dotancohen]

I've said it before and I'll continue to say it despite the downvotes: Ask what plane a flight is on, and refuse the flight if it is moved to a 737 Max.

I don't care if Boeing decided "this revision" of the 737 Max is safe. I insist on only flying in airplanes that the pilots were trained to fly on, without a compatibility layer between the pilots' training and the airframe characteristics.

[acuozzo]

> and refuse the flight if it is moved to a 737 Max

I don't fly often, but I go further. I just don't fly Boeing unless it's a 747.

747 || Airbus || Embraer

My airline of choice is American. I can see what a particular route is flying prior to purchasing tickets. There are enough Airbus aircraft in their fleet for me to pull this off.

[pas]

just an interesting tidbit: all 737 pilots were trained how to handle a runaway stabilizer.

The crime of the 737Max was that the MCAS fucking shit into the wind and introduced an unbelievably dumb stochastic failure mode (every X seconds MCAS adjusted the stabilizer), and the pilots had no idea what's doing it.