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by PostOnce 1371 days ago
Once upon a time many years ago, Chrome was marginally better than Firefox.

That time has long since passed.

I know, I switched from Firefox to Chrome and used it for a couple of years, but Firefox got better and Chrome got worse, so I've been back on Firefox for many years again now.

If Chrome doesn't do what you want or what you like, use Firefox. It does everything Chrome does, and more.

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I like Firefox and am a loyal, long term user - used it before quantum kind of loyal - but it is by far the least efficient browser on macOS with M1. In my rough personal testing Brave (based on chromium) is significantly more energy efficient, getting me up to 30% more battery time. I'm not sure why, but it's making it harder and harder to justify sticking with FF.
Bizarre. To me firefox looks like it's falling apart at the seams.

Here's a new profile, just default zoom set to 150% (ublock origin installed system-wide)

https://i.imgur.com/Z3MO8sr.png

https://i.imgur.com/hgscGrb.png

https://i.imgur.com/07QI1IU.png

https://i.imgur.com/owZm12J.png

What is even going on?

Not sure what you are frustrated with (can't read minds), but in my testing, the zoom setting you showed doesn't affect browser chrome, just web pages. Not sure why the rest of your chrome seems oversized, but you may be experiencing a bug. I'd report it.
You can't read minds, that's why I posted screenshots.

Surely you can see the difference between the font sizes for the ublock origin popup, and the enormous fonts on the settings page.

It's totally broken?

That looks expected to me. The zoom setting controls web page zoom.
I give up.
Amusing response.

In any case, I checked out Chromium, and the equivalent setting is labeled "Page zoom" and affects extension popovers as well. As far as I know, extension popovers are not web pages, so your expectation (and Chromium's behavior) seem to be a bug - either in the settings UI, or in the way the zoom setting affects extension popovers.

I just looked at all of those images and I'm not sure what point you're making? The links you shared look about how I would expect them to look at 150% zoom.

Are you saying it has unusual default settings, and that 150% zoom is one of them? For what it's worth in my experience of installing Firefox which are probably done half dozen times in the past year or so on various devices, I haven't experienced anything like this.

Is this a joke?

The only things correctly sized are the page and the hamburger menu.

Do you not see the oversized tab-bar, the tiny icons on the tab-bar and address bar, the tiny ublock origin dialog, and the huge settings page?

I see all of those things, and none of them look unusual. Contrary to your claim, the tab part is not appear oversized but rather a normal size, contrary to your claim the icons also look a normal size, the address bar looks normal size and ublock origin looks the normal size and the settings page looks more or less normal.

It's hard to understand what you think is unusual. Everything in the browser is displayed normally. The page is different because you used a different zoom, and it zoomed the way Page is normally do.

Are you suggesting that the browser tab bar and settings pages should also grow or shrink if you zoom in or out on a particular web page inside of a tab?

I think you're not fully appreciating how unclear you're being with all of this.

I don't see what is so hard to understand.

I run a 150dpi screen.

What the problem with running a "96dpi" application on a 150dpi screen?

The text is overall too small.

What text?

Literally all the text in the entire application is too small.

What do I want?

I want to make the text bigger, so I have an easier time reading it.

Is there an application that does what I want?

Yes, Chrome does what I want.

What does Chrome do?

I set the default zoom level to 150% and it makes all the text bigger.

What text does it make bigger?

It makes all the text bigger, and the icons too.

What's the problem with Firefox?

I set the zoom level to 150% and some of the text is fine, some of it is way too small, some of it gigantic.

Why is that a problem?

I have a hard time reading text that's either too small or too big.

What's the problem with the tab bar?

It's too tall.

What's the problem with the icons?

They're too small!

This is just a you problem?

Surely fucking not. Surely I am not the only person running a web browser above 96dpi (on x11).

Is this a X11 problem?

No, Chrome works fine.

Is this a really complicated problem?

No, making fonts the correct size for comfortable reading isn't complicated.