[conductr]

Sorry I thought this was an economic conversation, I’m not really debating how best to manage the disease at this stage, but if X deaths a year becomes part of the run rate economics should normalize.

> normalization of mask wearing in public indoor settings.

However, I am curious how this is not normalized now? It’s personal choice where I live and nobody blinks twice if you want to wear it. And my state is full of antimaskers. The issue becomes when you expect other people to wear it and they don’t want to.

[groby_b]

I also expect other people to wear pants in public, and if they don't want to, they can stay at home.

There is such a thing as collective responsibility and a social compact.

[conductr]

Oh, I see and think we’re just mincing words then. I think this is much closer to mandatory, law, requiring, etc than “normalization” which to me just means people don’t look at you weird for doing it. It says nothing about an expectation that they should be doing it too.

For example I could care less about someone wearing a mask if they want. I am not staying home for not wearing a mask. If I’m reading you right, you’d want me to stay home. So, we’re pretty far from any type of social compact and IMO have no hope for getting there given so many more people feel much more extreme about it than myself.

Social compact is an agreement and nobody is agreeing on this. Somehow everyone mostly agrees with pants.

Not to make it a personal attack, but I really find it strange how the “extreme measures” cohort of people on Covid and risks are still at it with this type of stuff. The news cycle on Covid is over. The turmoil is still happening but for most people the disease is not a daily concern anymore. They’ve resumed their lives. Are you still hoping things like mandatory masks become a thing? Do you really believe that’s even tenable? On a global scale? I never viewed that as particularly possible given how much cooperation would be required.