[matsemann]

No, we're just non-US people not seeing the difference between US agencies forcing FB/Google etc to hand over our data, or China forcing TikTok.

Or even US people believing their data can be misused more by their own government, than a country they will never visit.

Also, my data on Fb/Google is much, much more personal than whatever TikTok has on me.

[tomComb]

But this conversation is about what the US should do about TikTok - it is specifically in the US context.

Also, there is a big difference between how US companies operate, and the circumstances in which they share data, and how a Chinese company operates.

A parallel is that Google pulled out of China because China demanded Google censor search results (and account security issues). You could easily retort that Google censors all their search results anyway, but there really is no comparison between what China demands and what some believe Google does anyway.

[krn]

> No, we're just non-US people not seeing the difference between US agencies forcing FB/Google etc to hand over our data, or China forcing TikTok.

As a non-US person, I think you didn't get the point: the US agencies can only ask for data, but the Chinese agencies can push whatever software changes they want.

In other words, if China attacks Taiwan, there is nothing from stopping them of changing TikTok algorithm to deprioritize all the user content critizing its actions.

It could even make it look like the entire TikTok is supporting China just by promoting "the right" user content.

[largepeepee]

That's not even remotely true that US agencies only ask for data.

Facebook has admitted to suppressing speech in Thailand and the US.

Twitter and reddit openly do it during election season to sway votes and opinions globally.

You must be outright blind to gross crimes you claim TikTok might do but other social media have ALREADY been caught doing.

[krn]

> Facebook has admitted to suppressing speech in Thailand and the US.

> Twitter and reddit openly do it during election season to sway votes and opinions globally.

Could you provide any reputable sources that claim that such things were done under the direct request from the US agencies? Or is this your personal interpretation?

[JSGdev]

The linked thread discusses how tik tok represents a natsec threat to America specifically. Whether y'all europeans think American bigtech is a natsec threat to non-American countries isn't really a concern right now.

[kfrzcode]

TikTok has access to your data from FB/Google. And more.

[trident5000]

China has access to US users while the US does not have access to Chinese users. Thats the issue at hand.

[As_You_Wish]

That's a good one that I didn't think of. Good job.

[bigtex88]

China is an authoritarian government currently engaging in genocide. The US government isn't authoritarian and is not currently engaging in genocide.

Do you really not see the difference?

[Xeoncross]

The US companies collecting and sharing all this personal data is terrible. However, the CCP's use of personal data is another level.

If a citizen or visitor to the US criticizes the government in any way; nothing happens to them. The CCP on the other hand is quick to arrest and silence any party within their jurisdiction which is critical of the government.

Literally millions of people have died because of the CCP's tight grip on the country and strong-handed end to any opposition. Ask the uighur muslims about this.