[Apocryphon]

> I hope CD Projekt make a sequel where they take the time to really flesh out the world.

Sounds more like they should go back to making more expansions (they had planned three, it's been cut down to only one) to really flesh out this game, rather than dumping it and starting from scratch. Seems like a waste otherwise.

[cwkoss]

I don't think expansions would solve this.

What the world needs is random NPC events and non-quest things to find in the world.

- Overhear conversations about someone going to do a clandestine deal, then rob that person and the person they are trading with for way more money than a typical NPC and a neat item.

- Random gang-v-gang or gang-v-police turf war battles should pop up. NPC's should notice when you're 'helping' and not attack you.

- NPCs should occasionally try to rob you or sell you sketchy stuff.

- NPC should be doing interesting things, but all their animations are just 'walk around' or 'standing still'. You should be able to follow an NPC to get a peek at their life so they don't seem like arbitrary robots.

- Hidden caches with actually-useful or amusing items to encourage exploration

- Build out spaces that aren't used in quests, so exploring doesn't feel like you've just given yourself spoilers.

[Apocryphon]

Couldn't all of that be added in via expansions, DLC, or patches (what's the difference anyway) without changing the underlying engine? It's just strange that a game that was worked upon for so long (including after its release) is seemingly unsalvageable. I would think that they could expand more.

[cwkoss]

All of that should have been integral to the initial version of the game. I'd balk at a game that lets you play singleplayer but you have to pay extra if you want the world to feel real.

[Apocryphon]

Sure, but 1) you'd have to pay for a sequel anyway and 2) there's still the possibility of free DLC/patches.

My main question is does anyone know if 2077 is just so technically broken, systematically, that it's impossible to patch in all of that. Was it just improperly designed from the ground up to support its ambitions. Because if not, then I view throwing away all of the work done for the existing game, in order to start a new one, seems like a waste and another potential boondoggle.

[izacus]

I'm very sure that CDPR never wanted to create a GTA full of random crap happening on the street with no story connections.

I think a lot of you misunderstood what kind of games CDPR makes. You also didn't get randomly mugged on the streets of Novigrad just to be hunted by the guards.

[imbnwa]

>Overhear conversations about someone going to do a clandestine deal, then rob that person and the person they are trading with for way more money than a typical NPC and a neat item.

The plot to Way of the Gun

[TigeriusKirk]

How moddable is the game? Can users do any of this?

[theshrike79]

The latest update added an official modding API, we'll see what comes out of it.