[stevewatson301]

It's interesting to see this statement. When it comes to Copilot, many HNers share the sentiment that it has copied code from open-source projects without their permission.

However, when it comes to a different group such as artists, the same people seem to believe stable diffusion/DALLE-2/midjourney et al. are "just weights in a neural network and the neural network is generating art based on its understanding of text and style".

[frognumber]

The Fair Use test has four prongs:

- Purpose and character of the use

- Nature of the copyrighted work

- Amount and substantiality

- Effect upon work's value

I feel like that provides a valid ethical framework in both cases.

For example, if my AGPL code is taken and ends up in another open-source project, just without attribution, I'm okay with it. If it's used for a father-son duo making an awesome thing for Burning Man, unaware of where it came from, I'm fine with that too. If it's used by a large commercial organization to compete with my open0source project, I'm not okay.

I don't feel bad using SD at home for personal use. It's a lot of fun. I would feel bad, for example, using it to make advertisements or Hollywood films. I don't feel bad about most non-commercial and educational settings.

Your line might be a different place, but there's a line somewhere, and it's not all-or-none.

[speedgoose]

They are not necessarily the same people commenting but I agree HN can feel a bit egoistic.

[quadrifoliate]

Are these truly the exact same people commenting? HN has a wide range of interests, so I think it's possible that you're combining two different groups of HNers into "the same people".

I, for example, have some views about Copilot, and think that there's a case for saying that it violates copyleft code licenses. I...do not have a view about art, mainly because I literally have no idea how copyright works in the art world, or if there's something similar to copyleft; so I usually don't comment on the AI-generated art stuff that seems to be popping up left and right.

[bmacho]

It's interesting to see this statement. When it comes to Copilot, many people share the sentiment that it has copied code from open-source projects without their permission.

However, when it comes to a different group such as artists, also many people seem to believe stable diffusion/DALLE-2/midjourney et al. are "just weights in a neural network and the neural network is generating art based on its understanding of text and style".

[aero-glide2]

No reason to believe they are the same people.

[account42]

> the same people

[citation needed]

People on $internet_site doing A and people on $internet_site doing B does not mean that the same people are doing A and B.

[teddyh]

No, I feel the same about both projects.