[atoav]

To be honest I am not sure who those dabbling in software actually are. A lot of the embedded software running in safety critical environments on certified compilers and is build and tested to a much, much higher standard than most people would think. This is so much closer to software engineering than what can be observed by "software developers" who pull in unchecked dependencies like there is no tomorrow.

Sure there are also electrical engineers who don't actually know how to program and they indeed dabble in it in a very naive fashion, but you got those people in software developement as well and they are also naive — just in a different way.

[ducktective]

webdevs think their higher pay is reflective of the complexity of their field or their mastery of CS concepts