[lo_zamoyski]

I often find nebulous discussions around "systems" tiresome, not because there aren't better or worse systems, not because we can't make improvements, but because very often it results in a waste of time and energy spent on grievance and kvetching and wanting the stars to align perfectly instead of making the best of your situation.

[dc-programmer]

Countries rise and fall by systems. If the US adopts an unschooling strategy that minimizes math learning, then it will certainly take the country in a direction. It’s a topic that powerful people are clearly taking sides on. I think it’s valid to discuss what the implications would be.

In general, I don’t really understand the dismissal of the use of systems language for social topics. Other domains on this site are debated in very analytical terms looking at historical factors and second order effects.

What makes social issues different where it’s uncouth to perform the same type of analyses?

[gammarator]

Counterpoint: https://vimeo.com/44807536

https://www.metafilter.com/117357/Lawsuit-waiting-to-happen#...