[lallysingh]

A lot of companies started with Java or Go, and will consider Rust without ever touching C++. The stigma alone is enough to turn people off.

Hell it's going into the kernel in 6.1.

C++ runs a real risk of surviving only in the embedded/realtime space in the next 10 years.

[mrkeen]

10 years? That feels too short.

C++ is all the operating systems and the browsers and the games and the JVM.

[SubjectToChange]

> The stigma alone is enough to turn people off.

C++ has been hated for decades now. The reason it's used is often because you have to.

> C++ runs a real risk of surviving only in the embedded/realtime space in the next 10 years.

Ten years from now C++ will still be the language underpinning LLVM, web browsers, geometric modeling, machine learning, etc

[lallysingh]

Rust means you don't have to anymore. While the old software codebases will keep using it, the new ones won't.

[bsder]

> C++ runs a real risk of surviving only in the embedded/realtime space in the next 10 years.

Embedded/realtime? No way. The people I know in embedded won't touch C++ with your 10 foot pole.

Most of my embedded code is wrangling various "stacks" into cooperation with one another, and C++ helps me not one whit with that. At the other side, when I'm just poking sensors, C is more than enough.

And, as much I would really like embedded communication stacks to be in Rust, all that would happen would be the vendors slapping "unsafe" on everything so they would basically be writing C anyway.

[sidlls]

More or less this. “Unsafe” as a value proposition loses its luster when it’s ubiquitous in a code base.