[dsomers]

Can you give evidence of a developed country where that’s the case?

Because I grew up right on the Canadian/US border, I have family and friends on both sides. It’s really easy for me to see why Canadians live longer than Americans. Poor Canadians have access to preventive medicine in a way poor Americans don’t because of our universal healthcare system. This prevents a lot of illness that are easily to stop in early stages but hard to stop in late stages from killing people.

But it’s a really common thing for Americans under the influence of their radical corporate propaganda to wave things like universal healthcare away and just say with no evidence that other countries are cheating with numbers. No need to disrupt the amazing profits of your corporate health providers just to do something silly like save the lives of poor people —- they should really have worked harder if they didn’t want to die of cancer anyways.

You know what my lived truth is? Before Canada had more advanced health cards and systems for keeping patient records, it was a common thing in my city for poor Americans to try to defraud our health system just so they could get basic treatment.

But yeah buddy, keep believing the lies that we’re just counting infant mortality differently.

[dan-robertson]

The article suggests that wealthier subsets of the populations live longer in other wealthy countries than America and wealthy Americans generally do have access to healthcare[1]. And immigrants to the US also live particularly long so maybe they are wealthy and get good healthcare or maybe there’s something else to it.

The article also suggests some issues may be due to the way cities in the US are laid out which doesn’t really result from some kind of corporate propaganda or conspiracy, but then Canadian cities are quite similarly laid out.

It seems like a pretty messy nuanced topic that can’t be reduced to single US policies.

[1] perhaps their wealthy groups were eg 80%ile of the population by wealth and biased differently due to how people make money in different countries, or perhaps you need a smaller group for wealthy Americans to perform better, or perhaps they picked some dollar threshold so the American group was proportionally poorer or broader as America is richer in general. I don’t really know how that comparison was made though.