[dual_dingo]

Adobe has a long, well documented history of screwing their users, e.g. with their switch to this stupid Creative Cloud bullshit.

It's just natural and common sense to look for alternatives if you rely on Figma and don't trust them to be a viable product in the hands of Adobe.

[panzagl]

So Adobe screwed their users by making them switch to a subscription model like Figma has used from day one?

[the_mar]

What? Figma is free for personal use.

I have no problem paying a subscription fee for a corporate account. Having to fork over $100 a month to adobe for personal use is ridiculous. Problem with adobe there was never a free tier

[panzagl]

If you're not the customer you're the product. Figma just cashed you out.

[LoganDark]

This argument doesn't always work. Big tech like Google will definitely harvest my data and do actually-nefarious things with it that actually affect me, since I use their services, but what is Figma going to do? Sell my data to advertisers? Advertisers already know about me, but they can't reach me anyway, so that data is useless to them except in aggregation.

I'm a product to a lot of companies but not all of them are worth being concerned about.

[the_mar]

Ok cool. Still better than forking over 100s of dollars a month for CC

[TylerE]

If you're paying hundreds, you're getting ripped off. The full CC suite is $55/month

[skyyler]

But that's not the point.

The point is that we dislike Adobe and we don't want to deal with them in any context.

[psweber]

Until you need a team, Figma is free.

[jillesvangurp]

For now.

[behnamoh]

This is HN, where developers diss companies’ decisions while they would do the same. It’s actually kinda hypocritical tbh.

[aikinai]

It’s not hypocritical. Most of the comments I saw in the initial thread clearly supported both angles. “Wow that sucks, but huge congrats to the team!”

Looks to me like most people acknowledge that it’s great and natural for the company but just feel distraught by the implication for users.

[marban]

Adobe changed/is going to change a lot for the better under Scott Belsky.

[psygn89]

Any supporting articles that would ease minds?