[comboy]

Seriously? Well not connecting them to the internet works less and less, Amazon is rolling out their 900Mhz mesh with echo devices and there's LTE-M, NB-IoT and such.

The idea of not letting a device connect to the Internet is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless you live in a faraday cage (which is becoming more and more tempting). Oh, correction, thanks to mesh networks like that of Alexa living in a Faraday cage is not actually enough if at least one device is connected. Yay.

[lrvick]

I do just fine not connecting proprietary IoT shit to the internet. Sometimes I have to bust out a soldering iron, but if it is hardware you own it is always a choice.

[greyhair]

If all my neighbors dive into Amazon 'sidewalk' at 900Mhz, and trash my DECT handsets and my ZWave IoT, I am going to be really pissed.

[leidenfrost]

If you build your own house maybe you can. And then run an access point and a repeater for 4g, like LTT did

[TickleSteve]

Even with a mesh, devices still have to be authorised to get access. Just don't do that.

The more difficult option is if they come with cellular modems built-in, thus bypassing any of your infrastructure (which needs authorisation). That of course is technically possible, tho probably commercially unacceptable (modems cost ~15 to 20 dollars in bulk which is significant at smart-tv scales, not counting the data cost).

[lrvick]

More expensive IoT items like modern cars ship with factory activated cellular modem based tracking. Your options today are to buy older base model vehicles or learn to use a screwdriver and a soldering iron.

[jaywalk]

> Even with a mesh, devices still have to be authorised to get access. Just don't do that.

Nope, the whole point of Amazon Sidewalk is that it "just works." I don't think there's even a way to know what devices are connected, let alone any kind of authorization.