[agumonkey]

There's a value in compact / structural notation though, to an extent of course. But o come from the world of verbose application programming :)

[goatlover]

Like APL notation being a tool of thought.

[agumonkey]

A bit of that even though apl arguably push things too far (maybe that's what you implied). Parametric types also help making point, abstract combinators, recursive schemes.. All very helpful to define and manipulate ideas.