[bigmealbigmeal]

I think you're seriously exaggerating here.

I'm 5'3" and haven't needed to take 'drastic measures' to find women interested in me, both in real life and online. I would say that the majority of women 5'4" or under don't consider my height a dealbreaker, even if it's a disadvantage (which it definitely is). Yes, taller women are another story, but the average height of a woman in the US is 5'4".

So why does my experience differ with the conclusion you've drawn? My guess: I have a pretty good looking face, a reasonably fit body, and I'm a musician. In other words, height excluded, I'm above-average in attractiveness. And that's evidently enough to take away the whole dealbreaker thing, if it existed in the first place.

I know it's an n=1, but your statement is so profoundly certain that an n=1 is enough weaken it.

[bradlys]

Face is a pretty big deal. If you have model looks - many women can overlook other attributes.

But again - should we use something that is innately genetic and unchangeable as a means for “compensating”?

You’re not even ripped. You just say reasonably fit - so I assume something barely above skinny fat. Your face (genetics) are doing you favors here a lot.

It also depends a lot on where you are and where you’re pulling women from. Personally - there’s not a single woman I know who would date a man who is 5’3”. Heck - most don’t even want to date a man under 5’10” and will only do such when someone in person sweeps them off their feet. (Relying on repeated forced interaction - they’ll never go on a date with them from OLD)

[koonsolo]

I can't upvote your comment enough. There is a lot of negativity in men that have a hard time dating. It's all the fault of some external thing that can't be fixed of course. While in reality, there are plenty of things you can do.

I would much rather be a physically unattractive guy than a physically unattractive woman. Women consider so many different traits that it's easier for guys to work on becoming attractive for women.