[thrdbndndn]

>I have never, ever seen anyone make that argument

Well, now you see one, I am making it.

Your analogy with tangible goods doesn't work. Shoplifting, or stealing, could be a felony and is heavily frown upon morally. The risk of getting caught up is much higher, and the consequence is more serious.

I won't be angry about "thieves getting them for free" despite I paid for the TV, because I knew they will end up in jails eventually, if not already.

Piracy, while theoretically illegal, is almost never punished. It realistically has no risk. So there are a lot more people doing that than shoplifting. And yes, I feel salty when I paid full price for X game while someone is getting it free.

>What would the motivation for not wanting them to get it for free be, then? Unless you don't want people to get your works in the first place.

I only want my paid customers to get it, whoever doesn't pay doesn't deserve to get it. Pretty simple. I don't find it's hard to understand. Go ask any artist live with Patreon money how they feel about it.

[EMIRELADERO]

> Your analogy with tangible goods doesn't work. Shoplifting, or stealing, could be a felony and is heavily frown upon morally. The risk of getting caught up is much higher, and the consequence is more serious.

> I won't be angry about "thieves getting them for free" despite I paid for the TV, because I knew they will end up in jails eventually, if not already.

So whether you get angry about it or not depends solely on the thieves getting punished, not on the act itself? Seems like a very narrow way to view it.

> And yes, I feel salty when I paid full price for X game while someone is getting it free.

Why? That has no effect on how you enjoy the game. Why would you get salty about that, considering it doesn't affect you in any way? Especially since you said yourself earlier that piracy doesn't "necessarily hurt dev in term of income", so you wouldn't even worry about the dev(s) not making any more games because of piracy.

What's the damage for you then?

[thrdbndndn]

They same reason I hate about human right violation practice, despite it doesn't affect my in anyway (some even benefit me, like slavery labor).

(No, I'm not saying they are the "same thing" or the same level of seriousness. Just to demonstrate I can hate things that doesn't affect me negatively.)

[EMIRELADERO]

That's kind of a circular argument, isn't it?

"Piracy is bad" -> Why? "(One reason is) People get angry that others are getting their paid stuff for free" -> Why would they get angry? -> "Because piracy is bad" -> Why?

etc.

[thrdbndndn]

You are making up words for me.

Piracy is bad because it's unfair to honest buyers. This is literally my original argument. Not because people get angry about it, I never even mentioned that to begin with. You are the one who came up with "people get angry" angle by using a crappy analogy.

Do I really need to prove how this is unfair? A paid $60, got a copy of game. B paid $0 by illegal means, got a copy of game.

Same goes to shoplifting, actually. Not sure why it "doesn't hold up". I simply care less because police exists. Regardless if anyone "gets angry", it is an unfair situation.

Hell, you even made up another strawman: "Why would they get angry? -> "Because piracy is bad" -- said no one.

To be Mr. obvious, people get angry because they're in the disadvantaged end of an unfair situation.

Have a nice day, this is my last one.