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by vel0city 1374 days ago
In your example of the highways though, Facebook and Discord aren't the highways. They're the private clubs you take the highways to. The highways are the telecom companies, the ones where you're incredibly limited on which ones will service your area, where you realistically don't have multiple choices.

Discord isn't the only group chat platform on the internet. WhatsApp isn't the only text message service out there. As long as you can get on the internet, the highway, you can drive to another club. You can use Matrix. You can use Mastodon. You can use tons of other services out there.
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ncmncm 1374 days ago
The people you need to communicate with are not on Matrix or Mastodon.

"Private" clubs and golf courses banning only Jewish and black people are not allowed anymore, for reasons.

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nonameiguess 1374 days ago
Private clubs still exist, though, and they can still ban you even if all your friends are there. I'm also reasonably sure Discord can't ban you for being black or Jewish. They can, of course, ban you without giving a reason at all, but so can physical private clubs.
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ncmncm 1374 days ago
Discord can automate it; and their membership is worldwide, encompassing a radically wider network effect.

Ejection from Willowdale Odd Fellows does not keep you out of Springfield Odd Fellows.

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vel0city 1374 days ago
But you're essentially arguing that Willowdale Odd Fellows shouldn't be able to choose their membership, that everyone has a right to join the meetings.
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ncmncm 1374 days ago
The impact of Willowdale discovering you are gay and ejecting you is limited specifically because they (I assume) don't maintain a blacklist in coordination with Springfield.
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vel0city 1374 days ago
I mean, they might ban someone, and as long as their reasons don't pertain to protected classes does it still matter? Do you have a right to go to any Odd Fellow meeting, anywhere? Or do they have a right to choose who they consider to be members? I don't really know much about Odd Fellows, if they did have national/global membership rosters, would that then change this scenario to you?

Seriously, do you feel the private organization should be able to choose who can be a member or not? Generally speaking, not trying to bring any particular protected class.

Say the Odd Fellows club did ban me, globally. Maybe I had friends I knew through the club. Does the fact I have friends who meet in the club let met petition the government to do violence against the group to enforce my ability to go to the meetings despite the leadership of the group not wanting me there?

Should a church be required to accept everyone in their services, even if that person is running around the room screaming "God is a lie! God is a lie!" Should a restaurant be required to seat every potential customer, even if that customer orders an ice water and starts screaming profanities and making other customers uncomfortable?

Why can't Discord decide to exclude those which abuse their platform?

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