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Hmmm. Define art for us then? I don't see your views reflected in [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/art] for example.

Only some people define porn as degrading and rape-ful. Galleries are full of paintings of slaughter, is art about snuffing out life? Is all erotica porn? Where do you draw that line?

You sound anti-sex in dismissing sexual stimulation as non-artistic. I could stimulate rage and sadness in you with a painting of two girls stabbing a kitten in the eyes, why is that painting less art than a painting of two women making love to each other? Sex is a good thing, even outside of marriage imho.

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> You sound anti-sex in dismissing sexual stimulation as non-artistic.

Pornography isn't sex, it's a gross caricature of sex, usually shot from the perspective of male subjects involving the degradation of women, other men or children, purely for commercial purposes in order to give a false sense of sexual gratification. This isn't art, this is akin to butchery, with human bodies as meat ready to be consumed by incels and all kind of other frustrated males and depraved individual.

The former certainly like claiming pornography has any artistic merit as a way to justify their consumption of depraved content and their lack of any actual sex life.

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Art has nothing to do with merit, does it?

Sex with another person is difficult to come by for many, and only comes sporadically for many more. You don't sound like you've been married for 20 years and bound by oath to not have sex with anyone other than someone who's physically lost all libido. I recommend some empathy.

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> Sex with another person is difficult to come by for many, and only comes sporadically for many more. You don't sound like you've been married for 20 years and bound by oath to not have sex with anyone other than someone who's physically lost all libido. I recommend some empathy.

You keep on making assumptions about your interlocutor, stick to the matter discussed.

I'd recommend you stop trying making things personal and have some empathy yourself for the victims of the porn trade and sex trafficking instead of trying defend pornography by labeling its critics "anti-sex". Porn is not sex and whoever gets off watching porn isn't having sex at first place. The fact that people have a non-existing libido is the least of my concerns.

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You conflate porn with sex trafficking. May as well conflate girl's gymnastics with sex abuse. Because there is certainly sex abuse in girl's gymnastics. Heck, in society as a whole. You have a very warped definition of pornography.

You talk about sexual stimulation for people that can't have sex with other humans as though it's a bad thing. That's just being a prude.

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> You conflate porn with sex trafficking. May as well conflate girl's gymnastics with sex abuse. Because there is certainly sex abuse in girl's gymnastics. Heck, in society as a whole. You have a very warped definition of pornography. > You talk about sexual stimulation for people that can't have sex with other humans as though it's a bad thing. That's just being a prude.

You conflate sex with porn, then try to paint porn sick individuals as "victim" because they are not entitled to have sex, while being completely oblivious to the real victims of porn production and trade, trying to paint pornography as any other thing than violence, grotesque and vulgar and you have the audacity to call me prude because I'm against sexual violence and its effects on society? If that's being "prude" in the mind of porn sick individuals trying to paint their fetish as art, then I'll be "prude" all day.