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by lowercased 1372 days ago
> nobody prohibits you to pay bounties to maintainers to focus on your needs

company or individual, that's true. but there's still big opportunity costs and time factors. Pay someone $1000 now to perhaps get some polish/bugfixes in a release 2 months from now... and do what in the meantime? Deal with 15% more time spent in sub-par-for-my-needs software?

You can, but it's not a slam dunk decision, and just because you paid that money, you may still not get things as you want (or when you want).

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I don't think I've ever successfully gotten a SaaS or other paid product to fix a bug for me. I mean sure I've paid a lot to upgrade _hoping_ that an upgrade comes with bug fixes, but that usually doesn't pan out either. On the other hand I've seen great responsiveness on open source projects.
In one year you’ll be one year older. Won’t you wish you’d invested in yourself, org, and community?

It’s a marshmallow test for adults.

> Won’t you wish you’d invested in yourself, org, and community?

Many might prefer to have shipped features/products in a timely manner instead and how their performance reviews would look, as opposed to some notion of community.

The situations where you can say: "I'm blocked and am waiting on the library/tool developer to have a look at my GitHub issue, so no new release will be shipped until then," are probably not plentiful. Situations where the person in question can contribute a solution of their own are also not as plentiful as we might like. Situations where the person in question is capable of either solving the problem just for themselves (with a custom build of the tool/library) are also not as plentiful as one might hope, due to possibly different skillsets.

Making the functionality someone else's problem behind a contract of some sort feels like a decent choice in an enterprise setting, which is why you see many purchase something like RHEL licenses because of the support, or why many prefer to overpay for cloud services instead of running everything on prem, or even use paid tools that are "standard" within the niche of the industry that they work in.

For many, the circumstances in which they'll adopt FOSS primarily centers around someone else already having done the majority of the work and the solution being good enough: something like MySQL/MariaDB/PostgreSQL in the database space and something like Angular/Vue/React in the front end space, or any number of libraries/frameworks for back end development, tools like Visual Studio Code or Git, OSes like GNU/Linux or other Linux distros and so on.

One might also argue that a lot of the successful FOSS projects out there actually have corporate backing, but perhaps that's besides the point.

Those folks can contribute a few dollars a month.
Agreed!

But this point from the comment shouldn't be overlooked:

> You can, but it's not a slam dunk decision, and just because you paid that money, you may still not get things as you want (or when you want).

True with proprietary software as well. Some even charge money and sell you to others via advertising surveillance at the same time.
I donated like 4K early into GIMP 15 years later it’s still an unusable mess in a professional environment.
I use it every day to edit my photos, and create/edit images, things it does well. Thank you.
Hire devs and use OSS as a base to create the tools you need!
Hire dairy farmers to get the milk for your coffee - absolute insight into how it's produced. Also they got to raise cows from calves so no milk in the office for a while. But once you get it you can be sure it's organic !

That's not even going into the dev market situation right now ...

I mean seriously have you people ever been near a situation where these kind of decisions are made ?

What competitive advantage do you get from having dairy farmers on staff?

Compared to the competitive advantage of having a software developer on staff?

Do you actually do professional software development ? Even huge tech companies fail development projects spectacularly, non-tech companies trying to develop business critical software when superior alternative is available at reasonable prices ? You'd have a self inflicted competitive disadvantage. With first you might have a recruiting gimmick.
Sure, this is ideal given unlimited time and money, but hiring dedicated devs for tooling is going to be expensive. And once they fix "the problem," they're still on payroll. Yay they'll keep fixing problems and improving the software, but it's basically the most expensive software subscription model imaginable.
Good thing they invented contracting… several hundred years ago?
Contracting requires the devs to get up to speed on the software and your company needs. On the other hand, a private company selling commercial software has a comparative advantage in already knowing the codebase and user needs.

10 companies each contracting 1 dev for an open-source project is a less-efficient allocation of resources than 1 company hiring 10 devs for their commercial software project.

Lost in the noise when the community is large enough.
I'd appreciate it if you could provide some evidence for your claim that comparative advantage is "lost in the noise."

Efficient allocation of scarce resources is best achieved with comparative advantages. A commercial software team has shared context, management, and knowledge that cannot be as efficiently achieved by a decentralized community of contributors. So the commercial team can produce the same software at a cheaper cost. This is a good thing for the economy.