[costigan]

The excess deaths are quite possibly attributable to both the virus and the vaccines if, as one plausible but very unproven example, they're due to inflammation and/or micro-clotting caused by the spike protein. But in an environment where everyone will be exposed to the actual virus eventually, with uncontrolled initial exposures, it comes down to whether the benefit of getting vaccinated is worth the risk. The data I've seen says that it is.

[treeman79]

I micro clot. From before Covid. Factor 5. Will have stroke symptoms in 2 days of missing a blood thinner dose.

When I got Covid. I had to double blood thinner dosage for six month to not have symptoms.

Amazing how similar long Covid and my micro clotting from Factor 5 are.