Ask HN: Do you expect cloud price increase in Europe due to enery crisis

[Nic0]

With the energy crisis in Europe, do you expect some important rises in Europe regions with Cloud Providers in 2023. In my case, I have lots of resources in Belgium region in GCP, Will I see my cloud bill jump to the roof? I'll appreciate any links and opinions on the topic.

[mtmail]

Hetzner announced 10% increases starting September https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/price-adjustment/

From email to customers

"Energy prices from suppliers have risen drastically since the end of last year. This phenomenon is affecting people and industries across the globe. And since prices are not likely to drop or stabilize in the near future, we are forced to increase the prices of many of our products by approximately 10 %. In addition, we also unfortunately need to implement a serious increase to the electricity/air conditioning rate for our colocation products."

[Nic0]

OVH in France send a news with the same range of increase. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/ovhcloud-price-adjustments-in-2022...

[shapefrog]

From memory that was their second price increase for some customers (server auction customers) in 6 months. Some saw higher increases, some lower.

new price 34.80 Euro old price 26.20 Euro Starting on 2022-03-08 (notified 2022-01-21)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30022698

[ollybee]

Yes. In the UK it's been delayed as the government announced help for businesses, but with no details other than it would be "equivalent support" than for consumers. Other events in the UK have forced those crucial details to the back seat for now. As soon as details are known the price rises will come.

[thoughtstheseus]

Yes, energy is needed to operate data centers and energy prices are increasing and uncertain.

[nik736]

Yes, it will increase. Thanks to the merit order effect [0].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_order

[thomasvochten]

Most cloud providers have already secured energy prices in multi-year contracts

[Proven]

Hetzner, OVH, DO, etc. have already increased their prices.

Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far. But with the continuous harassment of cloud providers by the useless eaters from Brussels, I bet that's only a matter of time.

[Nic0]

Does GCP and AWS produce some electricity to be more independant on energy. OVH dont. Could this have an impact on price.

[hulitu]

> Google and Azure can't (yet) because AWS hasn't so far

Are they operating as a cartel ?