[ozim]

Which state are you referring to? I feel parent poster is talking about different state than what you have in mind.

[dbxkcichhdfufu]

The state that matters to users. All the rest is lies we tell ourselves.

There's a reason developers are constantly inventing ways to remove state from their code. Managing state is messy. Frameworks simply move it around.

Most react apps would be better off written in PHP, html, and progressively enhanced JS.

This is coming from a react developer. Most of what I do is bullshit work someone else invented for me.

But it pays well so ohwell.