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by FabHK 1376 days ago
I strongly support the right to privacy in messaging, ie encrypted communication.

However, I am much more hesitant with privacy in money transfers. It is not obvious to me at all that we should have unlimited unregulated money transfers. In fact, I fear that unreflected support for the latter might erode the (already tenuous) support for the former:

Currently, we might still be in a position to regulate and disrupt cryptocurrencies (for example, Bitcoin needs on- and off-ramps tied to tradFi, and Bitcoin traffic is unencrypted and can be detected (and censored), AFAIK). If that whole ecosystem were to succeed in ensuring encryption and anonymity in money transfers, we might get to a point where there is overwhelming political pressure to prohibit any encrypted communication, even more so than already.

TL;DR: Cryptocurrencies might jeopardise Signal et al. Yet another reason to oppose Crypto: to protect encryption.

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Pure privacy, without limitation, in money transfers would be catastrophic. Despite the consternation of hyperextreme libertarians sitting in their armchairs, the ability for the government to collect tax revenue is a pretty good thing and has broad societal benefits. Also allowing free flow of funds to terrorist groups is bad.
Extremely private monetary transactions may be a net negative, and yet it may be the world we must adapt to, if the ability to do so now exists.

There is always room for “good honest police work”, though.

There are many roadblocks governments could use to slow progress, but I’m not sure this is truly preventable any more than PGP or BitTorrent could have been.

If income tax becomes logistically problematic, there are many other types of taxes that may then need to fill the void.

North Korea already funds it's nuclear program with crypto so it's a bit late for that.

Also despite crypto allowing for pure privacy already with coins like Monero, this hasn't stopped tax revenue. It's not a black-or-white issue, because only a tiny fraction of people will utilise this privacy due to technical hurdles and other limitations compared to paying with cash or card.

There's a reason Monero doesn't show up on exchanges that comply with US KYC rules.
Kraken…?