[graderjs]

Yes, the commonwealth. Federation was not the start of Australia. It was colonisation. We began 1788, mate. That's it.

You can't just erase all those years of history or say they weren't part of our history, because they're "unpalatable". Ugh. Did you forget your history that you learned in school? :)

[thematrixturtle]

The GP's statement was completely factual: the title of "Queen of Australia" only came into existence in 1901 when the states of what is now Australia federated. Before that, the Queen was head of state individually over six separate colonies.

[graderjs]

Factual? From what point of view? The narrow one that Australia only existed after federation? That's f*** ridiculous I'm sorry. It was called Australia way before that. And the Queen was still the queen of those f*** colonies come on. It's not factual, Australia's history extends from more than 200 years. Why do engineers have to be so narrow about definitions: they think they're right but they're wrong they're just not seeing the other points of view. They just paint themselves into a corner on a narrow definition and then double down... it's f*** pathetic. But they use this to be abusive and quarrelsome and start fights, on the false pretense that they're right and they're the only right. it's b****. rather than just going, "yeah there's another point of view."

Like how you can question 1788 is the start of Australia is just ridiculous. And the monarch was the monarch of Australia for all that time because it was a British colony and then federation and we still have those heads of state. so it's not completely factual... what I said is factual what the other person said is wrong or limited to the point of view of federation. To argue against what I'm saying is crazy. What's the point of it even it's just like picking fights.

Your facts don't cover the reality of the situation I'm sorry. Australia is not just a name on a piece of paper after federation. Why do engineers think a single fact conveys the whole truth. Then I realize it's abusive to stick to that and not consider all the points of view...ugh. whatever.

Convince yourself what you want man but it's not the truth. But I don't think you've got any skin in the game to even argue this... Haha :)

[wizofaus]

Very briefly in 1901 mind you - Queen Victoria died 21 days after federation, to be succeeded by her son (Edward).