[kujin88]

Well, I rather meant the screen quality, keyboard and build quality etc.

I'm aware that there is no other CPU that offers the same performance per watt as the M1 does, but it looks like the latest Ryzen and The Intel Evo CPUs have come a long way.

[kevinherron]

I'm guessing you haven't ever laid hands upon or used a MBP. The screen quality and build quality are untouchable as well.

Keyboard is definitely a personal choice, and Apple had a multi-year stretch of terrible keyboards, but they're back to being good IMO.

I have both a new Dell XPS 15 with Intel i7 and a 16" M1 MBP on my desk right now... it's really no comparison. You really need to base it on whether you need Windows-specific software or you simply prefer it. Even some of the Windows/x86 apps I need turn out to run without issue with Windows 11 for ARM via Parallels Desktop on the M1...

[kujin88]

"I'm guessing you haven't ever laid hands upon or used a MBP"

Nope, my work forces macbook pros upon all of us and I've been using one with an Intel CPU for years. I don't like it because it's constantly going off (the fans always spinning), and gets insanely hot. It also slows down a good deal for anything intensive. I never liked it really.

I don't like Mac OsX all that much either and felt they have a weird ux,but that's not a deal breaker though. More than anything the fact that wsl performance on windows is close to bare metal seems to entice me a bit

[kevinherron]

Yeah, one of my personal laptops is a 2019 16" MBP with Intel i9. It's hot, loud, and slow. Just like the work issued XPS 15.

[kujin88]

This is what I am worried about. If it's anywhere the same with M1 then I would just rather bail out of Macbooks and go straight to Windows.

[kevinherron]

That's what I was saying in my first post though. The M1 suffers none of this. It's playing in a different league than other laptops.