[ctrlmeta]

> Unless of course you think people who are bad servers don't deserve to make minimum wage.

Why should the responsibility of paying a bonus (a tip) to the server fall on the customer? Why shouldn't the business be held responsible for paying them the bonus? As someone from Europe, I find it difficult to wrap my head around the fact that it is somehow customer's responsibility to pay them a bonus/tip even if there has been a bad service. In my mind it should clearly be the responsibility of the business to pay them what they deserve.

[lazyasciiart]

Those are very solid arguments for not allowing businesses to pay less than minimum wage, or for (as an individual) not visiting places that allow businesses to pay less than minimum wage. They aren’t terribly relevant to the situation where you just ate somewhere that does pay less than minimum wage.

[ctrlmeta]

> They aren’t terribly relevant to the situation where you just ate somewhere that does pay less than minimum wage.

Sorry for being obstuse but I still don't understand. How as a customer I would know whether the place where I ate at is paying less than minimum wage or not?

[RHSeeger]

As a general rule of thumb at almost any restaurant you're likely to visit, they're not. Now you know.

[lazyasciiart]

Depends how much effort you want to put in. Zero? Simply assume that it's true for any restaurant in the US.

[marak830]

As mentioned above though, as the company has to cover a lack of tips Uptoinimum wage, they won't be paid under minimum (at least that's what I'm taking from this).

[lazyasciiart]

Technically true, but nobody I know who has worked for a tipped minimum wage has ever seen this happen.