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by dbxkcichhdfufu 1384 days ago
Hitler, mao and stalin can all go jump as far as I'm concerned.

I'm sure they weren't pure evil either but sometimes people deserve the label.

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Admittedly one of the most horrible things about Steve Jobs was that he was good friends with Larry Ellison.

...But at least he wasn't Larry Ellison.

In what universe is Steve Jobs in the same category as dictators who killed tens of millions of people?
From the grandparent comment, "Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey."

The category being human.

In a universe with too many terminally online doomscrollers who make politics their personality
Cursed user name lol
Better than TotoHorner
In NO way anyone is making a comparison of Steve Jobs to a dictator. The original post was claiming:

> It's a habit of the internet diaspora to label a person either good or bad

> Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey.

i.e. the completely correct but also completely useless claim that there is no person who is absolutely evil or absolutely good . What the analogy is trying to do here is to say "OK, so you don't think Hitler is absolutely evil?", not "OK, so you don't think Steve Jobs is Hitler?".

something something modern slavery
Since they’re long dead, little is lost by labeling them evil. But the closer they are to our present time, the more we must sacrifice by declaring someone an anathema. Worst of all is living people, of course.
Those are extreme exceptions. Steve Jobs and the others you mentioned are not even in close leagues. That was my point, we try to judge everyone with the same yardstick and divide them in strict binary buckets. By that logic, Steve Jobs would either belong to same category as either Hitler or Gandhi.
Gandhi was a horrible racist.
Are they exceptions? I'm sure they had normal families and lives prior to their murderous transitions.

My point is be careful how much you choose to let people get away with a "they're just human" pass. Some people deserve the labels. For anyone that worked with Steve I'm willing to bet they think he deserves the arsehole label they give him.