[nemo44x]

Who wants to use a train/tram to haul kids and their things around? Do you really think it's possible to haul an infant, a toddler, and a 4 year-old around and all their things using a train that will only get you so close and now you have to walk another 4 blocks? Who wants to do that?

A home with space and a nice sized yard and an automobile to travel around in is great. It's nice to have a local train too to get into the adjacent metropolis, etc.

[mrcartmeneses]

I do that all the time. Works well if you know how, which you do if you live in a city. We tend to use our transporter bike for short trips with the smallest child, long trips are usually a combination of bike and public transport and sometimes we’ll take a cab, car club or rent a car if there’s a specific need (such as when we go camping). Yes we have been on family camping trips where we get the train to the coast with all of our gear and a cab to the campsite from the nearest station. Yes we’ve also done trips where we rented a van. All of this was orders of magnitude cheaper than owning a car. It is also faster. A regular trip I do via bike + public transport takes 50 mins on a good day, 2.5 hours on a very good day by car. (I’ve done both multiple times)

I have three kids. The eldest is 15. I’ve never owned a car. I probably never will.

[oblio]

What are we talking about? Long trips? Short trips? What's the use case?

For short stuff, bakfiets. For the second part, sure, why not? Get a baby buggy for multiple kids.

Walking is also good for you.

Also, is all of this happening as a single parent? How many single parents with 3 kids are even out there? 0.00001% of the population?

All these problems are solvable. With probably less than half the money spent on car infrastructure and 5% the pollution.

[nemo44x]

Ok it’s raining or snowing or very hot outside - I’m not throwing 3 kids into a wheelbarrow fitted to a bike and doing that. What an awful way to live.

Why does it matter how many parents? One could be away or working and the other has to go 5 miles to Costco or whatever. Your little bike things don’t work. Also there are lots of single parents with 3+ kids.

I don’t want your terrible solution or way of life. I like having a large home with a large lawn and a large SUV to drive my family where we want when we want. I take trains and walk too and use strollers of course. But that’s like 20% of the time. Your comment reads like a person who doesn’t have kids.

[mrcartmeneses]

If you think my way of life with my 3 kids is terrible and your way of life with your SUV is the only possible solution then I think you’d be happier if you widened your horizons rather than shitting on everyone else when they are having a good time.