[watwut]

> People, especially parents, with religious faith do not view it this way. It is not "force" to hand down our faith and inculcate our children with values based on loving God and loving neighbor.

If it involves more then negligible amount of spanking in the "how to train your baby" style or emotional manipulation, it absolutely is coercive.

As in, there is such a thing as healthy amount of teaching your faith. There is also religious based abuse. And then there is someone saying "glaring deficiency of public school is the inability to train your child's character for most of the day" which do suggest overbearing amount of it.

[Eleison23]

I have no idea what sort of connection can be made between spanking and the Christian faith, other than your own negative perceptions from outside.

[watwut]

One connection is how to train your baby books I mentioned. The foundation most popular book is named "To Train Up a Child". They are literal Christian child raising books that teach how to property spank. These and similar books/approaches are recommended inside fundamentalist circles, unknow or controversial outside them. Christians openly advocating for these approaches is just normal in more fundamental circles (by which I mean I personally knew such people and they are not even all that much fundamentalist, just tilted that way).

[Eleison23]

And atheists and agnostics would not ever strike their own children, or their students?

[watwut]

They dont claim it is biblical requirement when they do that. They dont have organized promotion of those practices the way fundamentalists do.

Also "I am going to homeschool because my kids might have meet christian in public school" is not really a movement among atheists.

[ausbah]

you don't recognize there's any sort of historical pattern between religion, at least w the more extremist parts, and punitive punishments? conversion therapy, Indian boarding schools, child wilderness camps, Catholic sex abuse scandals are just a few that pop to mind