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by skrebbel 1380 days ago
I’ll never understand how passionately people will argue for a society without any form of civic justice, just because they’re angry about something they read on the internet.

Just lock random people up without due process! That’ll teach them!
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spookierookie 1380 days ago
Does what happened seem just to you? That form of passion that you disapprove comes from failing to serve justice in the first place. Do you have any better proposal than to just keep going like this and be sorry for the observers that end up at the bottom of the sea? If yes I'm eager to hear about it.

Also, unless I'm very rusty with the legal system, if you're the captain, by definition you're responsible for anyone on board. Coming back to port with anyone missing should be a HUGE problem for you. I don't get that impression here.

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FpUser 1380 days ago
>"Coming back to port with anyone missing should be a HUGE problem for you."

After proving ( in the court of law) that it was because captain's neglect. If sailor A kills sailor B just for the fuck of it (and this happens or the true reason might be unknown) do you propose preventively punish a captain before establishing causation and guilt?

And most of injustice happens because our laws are constructed in fucked up ways and almost never punish politicians that are the ultimate reasons for such system. The example - asymmetric laws when it is easy to declare person dead by mistake with all the consequences and then it takes years for a person to get their rights back. And many other laws are like this. You want justice - go after politicians first. Here is the idea - if any person is harmed as the result of such asymmetric laws every politician immediately gets 10% salary cut until the law is fixed. Suddenly you'll find politicians busy doing nothing but fixing law system. This of course will be a problem on its own.

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ianai 1380 days ago
No need to sensationalize. Seizing a ship and other investigative steps sounds more like securing a crime scene and due process than anything else. If someone's a suspect in a serious crime it's probably best to not let them cross into international waters.
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Beltalowda 1380 days ago
"Captain does time" and "company closed", all "done even before police starts asking questions" doesn't sound like "due process" to me.
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