[jshen]

No one is suggesting people become vegan. You keep constructing strawmen, and proposing things that will in fact dramatically increase the costs of meat and force the things you say you don’t want. It’s non-sensical.

“… while shifting to a vegetarian meal one day a week could save the equivalent of driving 1,160 miles.”

https://css.umich.edu/publications/factsheets/sustainability...

[dbingham]

The root comment had "stop eating eggs, honey, and fish" before "take public transportation".

The comment above mine includes eating fake cheese.

Come on, it's pretty clear what they're driving at.

Also, nowhere have I said I don't want a reduction in meat consumption. In multiple comments I have said that it is a necessary part of the solution, whether by personal choice or driven by market forces as people shift to more sustainable agricultural solutions.

I am arguing against putting it front and center in the fight against climate change as the OP does and as the root comment on this thread does.

[jshen]

Below is the list you provided, and no where in it do you call for a reduction in meat consumption. You have some weird ax to grind, because telling people to not fly is a far bigger sacrifice than asking them to eat a plant based meal once a day instead of a meat based meal.

Here is you’re list.

“ 1. Walk or bike. 1a. If you can't do the above, use public transport. 1b. If you can't do that, consider moving to a city where you can do all of the above (if you can afford it). If you're rural, seek a land trust or farmer to buy your land when you do.

2. Insulate your house.

3. Get solar if you can afford it. 3a. Replace all gas appliances with electric (Heat pump, electric water heater, ec)

4. Don't fly.

5. Dietary changes, but remember to include ecosystem services and impact in your analysis. A little carbon is worth it if it means more land stays free of pesticides and continues to provide for the ecosystem.”

[rypskar]

>>Below is the list you provided, and no where in it do you call for a reduction in meat consumption

Reduction of meat consumption is part of 5. Dietary changes

[jshen]

That’s not clear. Dietary changes could mean a lot of different things. When you also consider the fact that he keeps going on and on about a niche low volume method of raising cattle, it would be easy for someone to think that he is not advocating for less meat consumption.