[WastingMyTime89]

That’s extreme and I think most of your point comes from a belief in being vegan as an ethical way of life rather than from a genuine willingness to limit people environmental impact.

The proper way to frame it provided someone has no desire to be vegetarian would be limit your consumption of meat - only eat red meat as an exceptional treat and favour poultry a few times a week - and switch to plant based milk.

Eggs and honey are very much fine as is cheese given the average per individual amount eaten per year.

[seasox]

Honeybees‘ environmental impact: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-with-...

[WastingMyTime89]

That’s only an American things. Honey bees are native species where I live. Also foreign honey bees displacing native species are not really what people have in mind when they think of protecting the environment. Just import foreign honey if that makes you feel better.