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by boloust 1378 days ago
After reading through the original study[0], I am rather unconvinced of the significance of this effect.

The experimental setup was basically:

1. Divide participants into builders or non-builders

2. Get the builders to assemble an IKEA box, and have the non-builders inspect an assembled box

3. Get the builders to bid on the box they assembled, and the non-builders to bid on the box they inspected

The results sound very impressive, with the builder group bidding 63% more than the non-builder group.

Looking closer, however, the absolute magnitude of the change is tiny, with the builders bidding $0.78 for their masterpiece, while the non-builders bid $0.48.

It's clear that reporting a 63% bid increase makes for a more marketable study than one that reports a 30 cent difference, but it's unclear if this effect scales with larger purchases.

I'm not familiar with the broader literature, but from my uninformed vantage, it seems possible that the effect declines into insignificance with larger purchases.

The paper also reports a second experiment with origami, and the difference is $0.05 vs $0.23, which at least is consistent with the hypothesis that the effect size will decline as prices increase.

[0]: https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/11-091.pdf

3 comments

Ah, but that is where you are wrong. Facts don't apply to successful memes.

You can remember the 'butterfly effect'? Yeah. Some people dined out doing Ted (x) talks on that one.

To make a meme 'effect' legitimate, you need the scientific paper, ideally published in Nature. It is then a thing.

Let me inspire you:

"The Happy Meal Effect" - surely this one writes its own, with that enlightening twist of knowledge you lacked before, backed up by a scientific study, so it must be true?

"The Dyson Effect" - just an example of doing this with a brand name. This is all about what happens when a boring product gets made high tech, expensive and desirable.

"The Silly Beggar Effect" - those are two words just chosen at random. This could come with its own origin story, maybe in Cincinnati there was an incident in 1893 that (despite time and geography) led Mark Twain to coin the phrase. The pertinent quote is imagined but nobody is going to check. Just by having a silly beggar in town everyone's life improves commensurately. They don't even have any 'broken windows' thanks to the 'Silly Beggar Effect'.

If you cared for American politics then you could pay an agency to promote the phrase "The Corn Pop Effect" describing it as a decline in living standards. Then do your political poll and dress it up as a scientific paper proving there is such a thing as the "Corn Pop Effect". In regular parlance any loss can be shrugged off as just "Corn Pop Effect". With enough money you could get that clumsy phrase on the lips of the world by election time, giving the 'effect' true significance.

The premise of this study is not new, in the days when cake mixes were an exciting product, the marketing men discovered that it was better to not include dried egg. This necessitated adding an egg to the mixture and this made the endeavour 'baking' rather than 'cheating'. The involvement was a good thing. The 'home made baked' product was the result with the desired buy in, not the 'cheated' product.

Wait wait wait! You forgot about marshmallows!
Sssh!

You know it already. It is a social phenomenon. When someone rocks up at a barbecue or place with an open fire, brandishing marshmallows. After everyone has consumed their marshmallows it is explained that they are real marsh mallows, containing marsh mallow root, as used by the ancients to get their blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm in perfect harmony. So these are not your normal marshmallow 'toy sweets', these are the real deal, to be savoured like truffles laced with gold.

By now everyone has had a few beers. The presence of the open fire makes them feel good. Miraculously they feel that their black bile is definitely in order and that the phlegm situation is great.

Of course the marshmallows were just out of date ones bought from the corner shop and had no active ingredients.

Often people that are not very good at barbecues conflate the Marshmallow effect with their endeavours so any extensive visits made to the rest rooms the following day are all seen as a good thing and not toxic food poisoning. It is easier to admit to 'Marshmallow Effect' than to something brown and runny.

Which brings me on to the 'Pigeon Feather Effect'...

I gotta say I also wonder about the effect of it. I hate assembling their furniture and the only thing I really care about is the quality and longevity. Which often means that we don't get IKEA products, because their good quality products are often more expensive than their competition.

About the only reason we ever get IKEA furniture is because of how it's delivered. We have two 140cm wide beds so that we have plenty of space for co-sleeping with the offspring (this is semi-normal in Scandinavia), and the offspring also has IKEA beds. Why? Well because IKEA was the only company that delivered beds disassembled in a way that made it possible for us to get them upstairs. We talked with some of the neighbours, and, only one couple managed to get a 140cm wide bed upstairs, and they did it, by disassembling half the stair case and break down half a wall. Now I have no idea why IKEA is the only company that delivers a mattress that is rolled up and without air and bed frames that aren't already assembled around here, but that's just how it is. So it was either IKEA or a ton of trouble.

Right, the 'replication crisis' could easily hit this one study, and any study should factor in non-self-assembly coming with a price premium.