[shadowfox]

> A private company should not be making decisions on essentially freedom of speech

On the other hand, a private company has limited obligation to uphold what is essentially a government concern ... Unless we start redefining a lot of things related to private obligation.

[blfr]

This particular private company wants to get out of being forced into a role of content moderator for a fifth of the Internet. This is an infinite time sink with no good outcomes for them.

More importantly, this seems to have no good outcomes for us, the viewers. I also don't want Twitter mobs and DDoS-ers to have a say in what I can and can't read.

[daptaq]

> I also don't want Twitter mobs and DDoS-ers to have a say in what I can and can't read.

This is honestly what I find the most disturbing about the entire story.

This "keffals" person -- an individual! -- managed to organise enough attention to make all of this happen. From what I understand the argument is based on a threat towards this person, but considering the (public) information they were gathering on them (From what I recall it was stuff like flirting with underaged people, selling HRT drugs via Discord, old sexist tweets, etc.) I don't see why it was not in their interest to pseudo-anonymously have these threats posted themselves. Of course it could just be that some user was stupid enough to post these threats themselves, but I believe the fact remains that "keffals" had more to gain from threats against themselves, since most of what was being posted was perhaps vulgar and certainly impolite, but practically harmless -- more embarrassing for those being "investigated". Just some people with too much time on their hands.

The site is probably going to be resurrected some way, soon enough. I believe hearing that they were considering an onion site. When this happens, I'd be interested to see the post histories of those issuing threats. But of course, since this is a private entity, they have no obligation to look at any evidence that would run contrary to the accusations. Of course this is their right, when considered in isolation, but CloudFlare has become a disproportionately significant player that thinking of them as just another company is rather difficult. In the end this all speaks for the fact that the internet was never intended to work on the scale it does. It is almost a miracle that it appears to do so most of the time ^^.

[geraldwhen]

It’s already back at the .ru TLD with ddos-guard

[crummy]

> most of what was being posted was perhaps vulgar and certainly impolite, but practically harmless

It was this mild but cloudflare took it down?

[daptaq]

As I said, "most" of it. Apparently there were bomb threats and people posting pictures from outside "keffalas" residence, which naturally is concerning, but at the same time was against KiwiFarms rules.

[capitol_]

Here is an overview of some of the terror that was organized from kiwifarms:

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/15657972205318144...