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by kevingadd 1385 days ago
Your electrical service can and will be shut off if you use it in a way that the utility provider objects to. If you've never read the rules for your power company it might be enlightening, the ones for PG&E I just pulled up are dozens of pages and list lots of obligations the customer has.

ISPs will also shut you off if they feel like it, for example if you run a server or they otherwise object to what you're doing. CloudFlare already did this too - they have a history of cutting off sex workers who use their services.
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robocat 1385 days ago
> they have a history of cutting off sex workers who use their services

You are making irrelevant aspersions - they cut of sex workers because they are adhering to the US FOSTA laws: "We also terminate security services for content which is illegal in the United States — where Cloudflare is headquartered. This includes Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) as well as content subject to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA)."

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_chendo_ 1385 days ago
Cloudflare knowingly fronts many sites that violate FOSTA. They only cared when Switter made the press.

Cloudflare gave us no warning when they suspended our account.

What makes even less sense is that Cloudflare's Head of Sales emailed us offering their services when we mentioned we were getting DDOSed as an escort directory.

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robocat 1385 days ago
Perhaps “making the press” is one limit that legal council use to decide whether CloudFlare is knowingly (according to internal legal theory) breaking the FOSTA laws: i.e. that the legal liability exceeds their appetite for risk. Their exact internal rules for deciding to terminate a sex-worker site are unlikely to be published by CloudFlare, and it could depend on non-public correspondence sent to CloudFlare. “Knowingly” is very legally vague as per this article: https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-politics-of-section-2...
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_chendo_ 1385 days ago
If they're so worried about FOSTA, it seems bad for their Head of Sales to offer services to an escort directory, no?
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kevingadd 1385 days ago
Right, and CF is arguing that something is incredibly dangerous or illegal about KF's content right now, so it's the same, no?
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