[RickWolter]

> I have worked with charming psychopaths in the past as has anyone who has been in this business for some time, and you do get better at spotting certain things.

how many charming psychopaths have you worked with ? And what have you spotted? I seriously laughed out loud when I read that.

what is the point in your comment? To try and discredit me? what for? to harm underdog devs?

you cant expect me to take that analogy serious...you compare someone who actively seeks to cause harm with someone who made a terrible choice as a teenager, hasn't been in trouble in over 20 years, and spends his free time helping people for free?

Theres no way you can be serious. you know what I think....I think youre full of shit. I think you made that story up and I think you have some personal issue with me or underdog devs. Probably why youre using a burner.

at least you think im charming so theres that

[anon3355987]

@RickWolter This has nothing to do with your story. I do not think I said anything to state or even imply imply that. It was not an 'analogy', not an attempt to 'discredit' neither you nor the organization. I have/had respect for both you and underdog devs, the work you have put in and the goals of the org. I do admit that the way you responded has not increased that respect to put it mildly. It certainly was not ''charming''. But hey, we all have our bad days I guess.

As to 'What is the point in your comment?'

I posted the experiences because it was/is a truly troubling situation for many at the company. Since this topic came up in general, thought I'd ask for advice from what I assumed people with more experience in these matters. Apparently, that is assumed bad faith. Isn't it sad that we have come to this where we can no longer can have questions or discussions? 'I think youre full of shit. I think you made that story up and I think you have some personal issue with me or underdog devs'? Seriously? I had never heard of you or underdog devs before this post.

I use a 'burner' because if I used my real account it would be very easy to find out the company and people directly involved, and that is not what I want.

And yes, you will find psychopaths in business. I don't think it is possible to have a full carreer without running into a few. And no matter how preparared you are, the best ones will fool you, sometimes even for considerable time. My advice there would be, if you see them decloack on others, do not assume they will not on you.

I feel realy sad you took this so wrong. I guess the net realy has no place for good faith inquiry anymore.

[RickWolter]

I misunderstood you. I thought the "But there seem to be too many notes here to not call it a symphony" was referring to me. I thought you were insinuating I was a psychopath.

I apologize. I clearly didnt understand what you were saying.

your reason for the burner makes sense. Im just so used to people using burners to troll that I assumed that was the reason. We have had more than a few people harass us by trolling our zoom talks and our posts.

[jrz813]

"Yes they still work here after everything we already know. What do we do?"