[ChuckNorris89]

Ubuntu is so annoying nowadays I really don't understand who's it for anymore.

If you want a stable and non-bloated Ubtuntu or Debian based distro for your web server/cloud instance, there are many better choices out there than Ubuntu including vanilla Debian.

If you want a batteries-included Ubtuntu-based Windows/MacOS alternative for your PC/laptop with video codecs, proprietary firmware, drivers, and software at your finger tips, then PopOS, ElementaryOS and Mint are much better and saner alternatives for the Average Joe.

Feels like the only thing keeping Ubuntu popular is inertia, brand recognition, lock-in effect and the strong influence of Cannonical, but I just can't recommend it to anyone anymore. It seems like Cannonical is so out of touch, it lost the plot a long time ago with what made Ubuntu the linux distro for over a decade.

[zamalek]

> I really don't understand who's it for.

It is, sadly, for everyone. Writing Github actions workflow? That's on Ubuntu (and you'll need to use Ubuntu for self-hosted runners for more success). Aiming to install a random package binary for a random project you've found? That's probably for Ubuntu. Need any enterprise/MDM stuff? That's probably Ubuntu.

We need people to start offering (or demanding) alternatives to Ubuntu before we can reasonably move off of it.

[ChuckNorris89]

Why are those thing Ubuntu-exclueive and don't also work on Ubuntu derivatives like Pop_OS or Mint? Isn't that the whole point of Linux?

[bogwog]

None of those things are Ubuntu exclusive. Not sure where he got that information.