[killyourcar]

What about, "treat AWS workers better"? Pay your people for their on call hours! Let them work on side projects and games in their spare time! Give them more than seven paid holidays. Give them more than two weeks vacation!

Only six weeks of paid parental leave?

I would absolutely be willing to pay more for AWS if I knew that amount was going to treating the poor folks who built it all better.

[uji]

AWS/Amazon might be great for customers but it's a horrible place to work. Having worked in AWS for 3 years, almost all services are half baked, tech debt filled in all parts of the code. But hey, we never see any issue? It's because it has army of oncallers who are manually running commands and fixing issues.

I used to work in one of the DB services and we used to get 20+ pages (sev2) every day. Due to insane amount of pages every day, we used to have daily on-call rotations.

[scarface74]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/landing_pages/pto-overview-us

15 PTO days. 6 personal days

Yes I work at AWS. I’m never on call and I haven’t worked for more than 40 hours unless I’m learning something new trying to figure out. I control my own calendar and I manage expectations for my projects.

I do work in ProServe though…

[killyourcar]

I work in tech in Seattle. AWS is notably worse then its peers. And even still, your experience is not typical for AWS.

[scarface74]

Have you thought that of a company had over 1.5 million employees, everyone’s experience wouldn’t be the same?

Besides, I purposefully put myself in a position that I wouldn’t have to relocate to a high cost of living area. I knew that Azure, AWS, and GCP had a Professional Services department that may require a lot of travel. But no relocation, no on call, etc.

Then a worldwide pandemic happened that reduced travel…

[throwaway_4ever]

Amazon is a terrible place to work for your well-being generally (personal experience and data-based). But, 2 weeks vacation only applies to 1st year employees outside of CA.

Seattle dev: 1st year -> 2 weeks, 2-4th year -> 3 weeks, 5th+ year -> 4 weeks.

California dev: 1st year -> 3 weeks, 2-4th year -> 4 weeks, 5th+ year -> 5 weeks.

[killyourcar]

If the average Amazonian washes out in under two years, I think it's pretty fair to say most amazonians only get two weeks.

[killyourcar]

Say what you will about GCP or Azure, at least those folks get to see their families.