[IYasha]

Wow. I was seriously considering Drupal as an option for an lod-style minimal-JS site (with mainly news+comments, gallery, wiki, statistics and stuff). Previous CMS I used was quite allright, but maintainers dropped it :( Can you suggest something besides Dripal and WP? (pls not JS)

[solardev]

What is lod? If you limit yourself to non JS, do you care what language the CMS is written in? Does it have to have all the features built in or just support plug-ins? Self hosted or vendor hosted in the cloud?

[IYasha]

Sorry, I was typing "old" :) And yes, I care about language to be able to support it and manage resources (PHP, CPP is fine). Self-hosted, bare metal. I used PostNuke-based CMS (LAMP) and was very satisfied with it. I was also thinking about basing site on nextcloud (I tried it for storage for friends, would be nice to integrate it with CMS), but it's a huge thing in itself I don't really know how to approach )

[solardev]

Oh wow, when you said old, you really meant it lol. Haven't heard of the Nukes in decades now.

Honestly, I hate to say this, but if you really want that level of server-side all in one power... maybe Drupal IS worth considering after all. Most modern sites aren't built that way anymore, instead opting to compose a site out of many services (eg a CMS for marketing pages, Discourse for a forum, an auth provider linking them all together, etc.)

A monolithic community on a single engine is in fact the kind of (rare) use case that Drupal actually fits... making its complexity possibly worthwhile. It's just overkill for most sites that aren't like that.

WordPress might also be able to get there eventually, with a lot of plug-ins, but at that point it would be so bloated that Drupal might actually be cleaner. Might also be worth checking to see if any of the older PHP CMSes (Joomla, etc.) are still being maintained.

Sorry, I haven't looked at this sort of use in years and wouldn't be able to provide more details than that :/