[LatteLazy]

Yeah, I find the whole nations issues sort of confusing though. We have spent the last 10-15 years voting to make things worse. Our political systems are shit, and we decided NOT to change them. Our PM is a joke and won by a landslide.

Now everyone is acting surprised that the place is getting worse, the government are incompetent and nothing can be done about it.

I am sorry for people who didn't vote for this (including myself), but I have to admit we are a minority and we should really just emigrate...

[ZeroGravitas]

"Landslide" in this context meaning nearly 44% of the vote, translating to 56% of the seats, meaning they can overule the "will of the people" usually.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/general-election-2019-t...

[LatteLazy]

I think its more accurate to exclude Scotland and NI which makes those figures worse, but yes. That is a landslide and guaranteed Bojo basically unlimited power under the British system. And people voted 2:1 to keep this system back in 2011

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternativ...

This is the problem the UK has: we choose to fail and then complain we're failing.

[ZeroGravitas]

They only got offered one other option though. Because the research suggested a true PR option would win, so they didn't offer it, then they could claim they'd tried and the people had rejected it.

Same trick used in the Scottish and Brexit referendums. Worked out for them with the first two, blew up in their faces on the third go.

[LatteLazy]

I think without realising it, you're exemplifying my point.

Why improve our shitty system when the improvement isn't the exact thing you personally want?

Because "true PR" wasn't on offer, people voted no and we have basically no democracy at all.

Because there was no cheap, easy, clean, 100% supported energy supply on offer we end up reliant on Russian gas.

Because Corbyn was not the messiah, better elect Boris.

We're about to do it again with Kier.

This is the british disease: people would rather have something terrible and moan, than something better but not perfect.

[ZeroGravitas]

People voted no because the same people who ran the Brexit campaign told them not to, with the backing of all the newspapers.

That would have been harder if they'd given a better option, so they didn't.

People should have voted yes, it was the smart best thing to do, but they didn't. Some of them are just idiots, but most were just bamboozled into thinking they would get more money for the NHS by people who hate the NHS.