[oangemangut]

for me it's the archaic 'sales practices' they go through. The bait and switching in advertising, the us vs them dynamic they try to create with the sale managers, finalizing a price with sales and then having finance try to wring more out of you, or saying the price isn't possible unless x y z. I'll never go through that again.

[kube-system]

I've never had an issue with an a dealer honoring an ad. I always print it out and bring it with me. It's pretty illegal if they don't.

Financing is financing. It's not the car. If you show up without knowing how you're going to pay for the car, well... you showed up without knowing how you're going to pay for the car.

Yeah, they'll ask about extended warranties and such, but it's just a matter of saying "no" a couple of times while signing paperwork.