[throw827474737]

Not everything needs to be "climate" now as we ignored it anyway for too long..lol. It is also about not using finite resources, waste, risk, economics.. lately looking at France's and China's heat waves, didn't we all learn that all our coal/gas and first of these nuclear plants will fail more and more and not be a reliable power source during increasing heat and drought waves and the near future? And then there it is also good to have that Ukrainian example... conflucts & war will now also only increase, that is for sure.

Worst of all I cannot get rid of the feeling that everybody shouting "nuclear now" was denying or at least ignoring clinate change for the last 30 years... slowly realizing that climate change is a thing and longing for the laziest worst second option. No, that's not enough, and even all that aside would never suffice, barely help now. Be happy in your nuclear focused states and fantasies but leave this at rest here at least ..

[hedora]

I've been shouting "nuclear now" and "climate change" for about 30 years. I not the only one.

[panick21_]

Wow, no what we learn is that after 60 years of dumb usage of nuclear we need to finally fucking evolve and build air cooled nuclear. Sadly most projects that could do that get killed in the political battle.

There is nothing inherent in nuclear that is bad in heat. In fact, air cooled nuclear, is perfectly fine in the hottest desert and coolest tundra.

> conflucts & war will now also only increase, that is for sure.

That is against 50 years of trend, and despite Ukraine, it not actually flipping the trend.

> Worst of all I cannot get rid of the feeling that everybody shouting "nuclear now" was denying or at least ignoring clinate change for the last 30 years..

That is a totally uniformed opinion. Lots and lots of people have been wanting nuclear for a long time.

France as an example of a green grid has been held up as an example by many technology people.

The simple problem is that those people didn't really have a political home, so they had little relevance.

> Be happy in your nuclear focused states and fantasies but leave this at rest here at least ..

Nuclear has actually managed to make grids green. Like actual large industrial countries, and did it 40 years before anybody came even close with wind/solar.

You should worship at the feet of nuclear given how much CO2 was not produced because of nuclear for the last 40 years.

And had it everybody had embraced nuclear like we wouldn't have the problem anymore.

The reality is the environmentalist with their obsession with natural energy (whatever sudo-scientific nonsense that is) have been holding back the flight against climate change almost as much as the fossil fuel lobby.

For 40 years the environmentalist failed to produce a solution for green grids and dreamed about solar and wind. Sure over the last 20 years that has started to work. But we would be done with this by now had the environmentalist community embraced nuclear.

[synotna2]

The heatwaves also affected delivery of coal (:

And even with the heatwaves still more reliable than wind & solar